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Posted by: sam
« on: September 28, 2024 »

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-1055#post-103324

Last night's slew of contributions by 'N' were doubtless triggered by the recent attack of eye-rolling.

When I think of moNkers and Aurora I sometimes picture The Hound and his mutant zombie brother fighting and falling to their deaths at the end of Game of Thrones:


That's not quite fair, as Aurora can't be compared to either. Tyrion is perhaps the closest casting choice, because he always talked sense, even when drunk. How tall is she?
Posted by: sam
« on: July 02, 2024 »

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-969#post-98066
Quote from: AuroraSaab
this forum... has a regular engagement that totals 4, with perhaps 3 or 4 occasional others

I count half a dozen regulars on the gender thread: Mein Tool, moNkers, Aurora, icowden, and the two Andys. There are at least that many others plugging away elsewhere, including punching in for reactions. For an adjunct to a major cycling forum it's an abysmal state of affairs.

Though Duty Calls can seem like a death watch, I expect NACA will carry on no matter how little subscribed it is, since they need a place to shunt anything OT that's even slightly controversial. As long as Mein Tool is around it's hard to imagine it coming back to even the modest but interesting forum it was before, let alone blossoming into something more worthwhile.



The less we hear from others, the more posts we get from the man-child:

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-970#post-98088
Quote from: AndyRM
Of all the things I've needed psychological help with over the years, being non-binary has never been one.

Posted by: sam
« on: July 01, 2024 »

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-968#post-98048
Quote from: Mein Tool
cult

CXRAndy shares a lot of tweets. Each one offers a discussion point, splendidly annoying the actual cult members. It's win-win. Bonus points for remaining completely unruffled by them.

Quote from: AndyRM
Quote from: CXRAndy
[Rowling tweet "In which the First Minister of Scotland does a very good impression of a teenager trying to bullshit his way through questions on a book he's never read."]

He doesn't really though, does he?

He's hesitant, says it's a debate, and makes his own feelings known.

Personally I prefer that approach than launching into some bollocks spiel which inevitably gets torn to shreds, but maybe that's just me.

Fuck me, I'm going to agree – or at least not totally disagree – with Mini-Me here; except I would prefer the approach where the first minister wasn't frightened of being torn to shreds by trans rights privileges activists, and without hesitation stated facts known to all but the most addled, because he's an adult human male with a working brain, with the courage of the adult human female.

Quote from: Mein Tool
cult
Quote
cult
Quote
cult


Thanks for helping me find that song!

Oh, and this seems tailor-made.
Posted by: sam
« on: June 30, 2024 »

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-966#post-97987
Quote from: AuroraSaab
Perhaps just better to leave people to get on with campaigning about what is important to them, whether it's Gaza, women's rights, or whatever else takes their fancy.

BREAKING NEWS
I've located Mein Tool.


You have to admit the Labour guy sounds eerily similar to the forum troll, even if he didn't start insulting her the way Tool does Aurora and others. Unless you count his entire performance as an insult.

I wouldn't say that was Julia at her best, her first question being as loaded as they come, but he was so awful she's forgiven. Whether or not men have been assigned to share women's actual bunk beds in prison, which may have been the technicality that kept him from lying, at least in his own mind, his denial that they haven't been housed together was one of those moments where you find it hard to believe what you're hearing. Full on TWAW, as captured as you're going to find.
Posted by: sam
« on: June 29, 2024 »

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-963#post-97915
Quote from: Mein Tool
Those 26 nurses do not represent 26 incidents. They represent one.

Or: look how much damage just one trans identifying man can do.

There was also more than a single incident, despite his best efforts at minimisation.

. . .

There's probably nothing I can say about Tool that I haven't already. We're both broken records, the difference being he's warped. (That may be new.) It's clear he doesn't know what he's talking about on the gender thread, and accuses people of the very things he's guilty of, from lying to logical fallacies to living in an algorithmic bubble. In fact that's his main mode of attack: the simple reverse, e.g., you're in a cult (his current favourite word), when it's so very obvious who's engaging in cult-like behaviour. It is, as I said a few posts ago, the equivalent of making a lot of noise in an attempt to drown out the opposition.

He is a waste of time, yet here I am posting about him. Again. I'd check myself into Hatescrollers Anonymous, except I'm not anonymous, and it's fascination, not hate: I can't wrap my head around how someone can behave the way he does.
Posted by: sam
« on: June 26, 2024 »

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/general-election-2024.596/page-75#post-97594
Quote from: Electric_Andy
We had a go at my MIL because she wasn't going to vote. We told her about Emmeline Pankhurst and now she's going to vote. We told her to stop reading the DM and not to vote Tory, but also that she is free to make up her own mind!

NACA in a nutshell.

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-953#post-97566
Quote from: Mein Tool to AuroraSaab
[photo of a sea lion]

It should go without saying that AS isn't actually sealioning; but he's familiar with the term, and eager to use it.

Quote from: Mini-Me to CXRAndy
Oooohhhh, is this your foray into learning about algorithms?

Both AndyRM and Mein Troll fly high above the algorithmic haze.

Quote from: Tool to his enemies
You are a sideshow of freaks.

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1804864541064368243
Quote from: JKR
Each of us must be told that we represent only ourselves or a lunatic fringe.

Having recently rewatched 28 Weeks Later, I'm thinking Tool has a touch of the rage virus.

Quote from: cookiemonster
[illustration of @effinbird used in service of calling CXRAndy an asshole]


Welcome to NACA.
Posted by: sam
« on: June 24, 2024 »

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-949#post-97425
Quote from: AuroraSaab
You actually have no idea what the women in Brighton spoke about, and it wouldn't matter anyway.

I think that was to classic33, but it may as well have been any of the men's rights chorus.

Quote from: CXRAndy
When a group of men are making so much noise to try and drown out the words being said.

Yes they're scared of females.

Here there be noisemakers.

Posted by: sam
« on: June 23, 2024 »

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-946#post-97322
Quote from: moNkers
It was AS that referenced Nazis.



moNkers is of course inverting reality; it's Mein Tool who Nazifies at the drop of a hat.


Dare mention this and voilà, it's you going Godwin.

Quote from: Mein Troll
haters gonna hate

Trolls gonna troll.
Posted by: sam
« on: June 22, 2024 »

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-943#post-97244
Quote from: moNkers
One can wonder why it is important to hear the opinion of Rowling as just one person. As an aunt to a fabulous trans woman I'm in tune with David Tennant.

[photo of Tenant holding what may or may not be the current Pride flag when you read this, wearing a shirt that says YOU WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ME in trans identifying letters]

Go through him to do what, exactly? Most people are running the other way. You know, being phobic and all.

Quote from: AndyRM
I think the Rowling thing is that whether she wanted to or not she's ended up as a sort of figurehead of the anti-trans/women's lobby.

Translation: trans is anti-women.

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I don't think Rowling is being told to shut up

Death threats not being the ultimate Shut up.

Quote from: Mein Tool
Next you'll be telling me that Hitler was right about the Jews because Kristallnacht and the Holocaust happened.
It's been 0 days since Hitler came up.

Quote
hate cult

So I guess the plan is to keep repeating these words until the end of time, or the end of the thread, whichever comes first. I've joked about moNkers as Jack from The Shining; perhaps Mein Tool is the better fit for that typewriter.
Posted by: sam
« on: June 20, 2024 »

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-942#post-97169
Quote from: icowden
Quote from: CXRAndy
FBI used to intimidate nurse who reported illegal sex mutilation surgery at Texas hospital.

No they didn't.

Yes they did. Gosh, where to next with this fascinating discussion.

Quote from: Mein Tool
Confirmation bias is just one of the many things CXR doesn't understand

It has been observed that confirmation bias only ever affects other people. This makes it one of the easier errors to spot, as one's own judgement is never impaired by it.

POTD from elsewhere:
Quote from: madderthanhell
It's also a known propaganda strategy: leapfrog over the issue of contention, act as if it's a settled question or was always beyond question. Make anyone who is still "stuck" on that question feel they're behind the times, out of the loop, not one of the gang. Laugh scornfully at the very notion that there is anything to discuss.
Posted by: sam
« on: June 19, 2024 »

I was putting so much work into Pale Rider's posts I felt I had to end it: hence 'No Exit'. (Going with the proposition hell is other people, some are certainly a lot more hellish than others.) It was a way to chide myself while carrying on. Unfortunately this has just turned into another strand of Triggering, slightly tucked away is all. I'd zap this thread in the spirit of KISS, but haven't been able to bring myself to pull the trigger. As long as I keep stopping by the NACA free speech zone, duty will keep calling.

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/israel-palestine.556/page-216#post-96762
Quote from: cookiemonster
Quote from: CXRAndy
Don't be too hard on yourself, you've been woke brainwashed


Although I'm not a big fan of the W word, he's not wrong.

I don't agree with CXRAndy about Israel. Reasonable people can differ when it comes to geopolitical conflagrations. One's stance on this particular horror is not a dismissal of a fundamental reality. Good for him for plugging away on the gender thread in the face of overwhelming derision.

Who wants to bet cookiemonster has cute posters from the trans lobby on his classroom walls.

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-939#post-96901
Quote from: Ian H
Not that our resident clown says anything of interest anyway.

Which clown is that? There are more than a few to choose from.

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-940#post-97063
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CXRAndy: [Video exploring gender stereotypes]
AndyRM: You don't know who that is, do you?
icowden: I don't either but I did look down her tweet timeline, and well... she's probably not a good source, lets put it that way.
AndyRM: The guy talking is Christian Shearhod (a teacher), who's dating a trans model Eden Estrada. The commentator apparently/probably doesn't know this either.
icowden: I'd say that's a 100% certainty as she appears to be an avid Trumpian. It is however unintentionally hilarious once you have that information.
AndyRM: Agreed. Like much of the half arsed, half understood and often half watched sh!te that comes out of terrified snowflakes usually is.

What the 'Trumpian' is saying is addressed in a completely arsed way, which is to say not at all, because why engage with the (perfectly sane, btw) points when you can simply attack: it's so much easier.

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-941#post-97121
Quote from: AndyRM*
Quote from: CXRAndy
[Tweet with video]

It's badly edited, poorly shot, the timing is terrible and the sound mix is embarrassing.

[Strokes chin] Now that you mention it, that's bollocks.

Quote
I'd ban them from everywhere for those reasons alone.

A joke, I know, but he clearly isn't fussed about people getting banned for no good reason. It's an effective ad, competently produced, which he doesn't like because [checks notes] he's been woke brainwashed.

*aka Mini-Me since he started tagging along at Mein Tool's heels

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/climate-crisis-are-we-doing-enough.17/page-115#post-97148
Quote from: Rusty Nails
A very British, middle class protest. Protest done, nobody hurt, no real damage - it wasn't even paint, druids can still enjoy the summer solstice, plenty of chance for the press and politicians to express their distaste. And absolutely no impact on stopping or reducing oil production or consumption. Everybody happy.

POTD
Posted by: sam
« on: June 15, 2024 »

https://ncap.cyclechat.net/threads/gender-again-sorry.273/page-939#post-96903
Quote from: AndyRM
I cannot think of a single reason not to vote.

Because [all together now] IT ONLY ENCOURAGES THEM.