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Posted by: Arthur Conan Doyle
« on: May 22, 2024 »

Just came across this from a few years ago. In case anyone thought the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre prioritising men's feelings was an isolated incident...

Why I’m suing Survivors’ Network
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“I didn’t know that, as a woman, I could say no, which sounds really stupid, but I didn’t know I had options. I thought sex was something that was done to you and that part of life as a woman was to make males feel included, because they’re the priority,” she says.

That day in her rape support group — her last day, it turned out — she realised none of this was true: she could say no. “This isn’t about money for me — I don’t care about the money. I just want a change of policy and for there to be female-only services, without taking away the mixed-sex services. Since I launched my case I’ve heard from so many women who say they stopped going to their groups for the same reason, but they didn’t want to say anything, and I thought about doing that — just going away and staying quiet. But I couldn’t do that anymore. It’s enough.”
Posted by: Marianne Moore
« on: November 15, 2022 »

They Paused Puberty, but Is There a Cost?
Is the Old Gray Lady slowly waking up and stepping out of the approved narrative? Better not forget her makeup.

The doctrine of Trans inspires few decent wordsmiths. Clare Flourish is one.
P.E. Moskowitz is another:
I’m So Trans When I Turn On My Lamp
You see, simply everything I do is transgender, because I am transgender. My lamp may look normal to any cis demons reading this essay, but it is in fact a trans lamp, not because it is one of those bendy architecture lamps (she’s queering being upright), but because I, a trans person, turn it on and off daily.
Posted by: Walter Cronkite
« on: November 04, 2022 »

How Stochastic Terrorism Uses Disgust to Incite Violence
Quote from: BondiBlue
The once-reputable [Scientific American] has adopted Alex "Esqueer" Caraballo's go-to (and misused) terminology of "stochastic terrorism" to forge a dubious connection between Chris Rufo ranting on Tucker Carlson about kids getting butchered by gender quacks, and Paul Pelosi getting beat to within an inch of his life. It essentially blames the public for feeling "disgust" when these, well, disgusting activities are exposed in their raw and honest form without sugarcoating. Also known as journalism.

Funny that, wasn't it "disgust" among the public seeing the bodies of kids come home in body bags that led to a widespread revulsion over the Vietnam War? Wasn't it "disgust" among the public seeing the bodies of black people getting brutalized by the likes of Bull Connor that led to a widespread revulsion over racial oppression? Wasn't it "disgust" among the public seeing birth defects from Thalidomide that led to a widespread outcry causing it to be pulled from the shelves? Wasn't it "disgust" over sexual abuse that led to the #MeToo movement that brought down predators like Spacey and Weinstein, or the "Spotlight" scandal within the Catholic Church, or Penn State and Jerry Sandusky, etc. etc. etc.? Perhaps "disgust" is exactly what's needed to force systemic change, and lo and behold, the ones who don't want change are disgusted!

Long-serving Guardian columnist Hadley Freeman leaves for Sunday Times - Bron Maher
Freeman told Viner: “It is astonishing to me that the progressive media has handed such an own goal to the right, closing its eyes to concerns about the safeguarding out of fear that to do otherwise would lead to accusations of bigotry. You have said that both sides in the gender debate are equally passionate – but only one side demands censorship. It seems to me that at the Guardian that side has won.”


Quote from: senua
It's kind of awful seeing all of this though, which source, which news do you actually trust? For me it's basically none, I don't know what is true anymore.

I found it most striking when the likes of Radio 4's Today or PM programme's anchor talked about a subject on which I was knowledgeable and you realised that they hadn't a clue. You start to think, "if they got that wrong, what else are they getting wrong?”

Fascinating thread
Posted by: Hannah Arendt
« on: October 14, 2022 »

The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer exist.
Posted by: Andrea Dworkin
« on: September 26, 2022 »

Posted by: sam
« on: September 25, 2022 »

Where we're headed:

https://twitter.com/SusanMee9/status/1573682979464937473
https://www.tiktok.com/@millyrosebannister/video/7145758195380751662

A brave new world without boundaries. Thanks guys.

Quote from: Theeyeballsinthesky
the video of that poor young girl is a perfect encapsulation of how bad the problem is. She blames herself for her feelings & absolves primark of responsibility because she’s had beeee kiiiind force fed at her for years. She doesn’t understand that her feelings at having 2 men walk in on her while she’s undressing are entirely right! Of course she feels scared, of course she feels violated and mostly she feels confused. She’s been taught there’s no problem with men in women spaces and even been told that men presenting as women are even more vulnerable than actual women. And yet look at how she feels….The cognitive dissonance must be off the scale for her
Posted by: Jim Henson
« on: September 24, 2022 »

'Where do you even buy giant fake breasts?' The imagined thoughts of the Oakville principal
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And the media storm begins. I must admit I expected something a little more “mainstream”; I could handle elbowing my way to work through a throng of news vans from the BBC, CTV and CNN. But instead all we seem to be getting are a trickle of independent, right-wing media with names like “The Truth Bullet” and “Freedom Offensive.” Some podcaster sipping a Monster energy drink cornered me in the parking lot and asked what I thought about Japanese kyonyuu fetishists. A 20-something in a Breton cap held up his phone camera to my face and asked me if bakunyū hentai was going to be added to the school curriculum.

My house has a lot of glass so I'm not normally a grammar nazi, but please:



OK, elle est française. Still.

This would be quite a plot twist:
Quote from: DdraigGoch
Someone alleged that he was disciplined for "toxic masculinity" last year (no idea what he did), and that he's now trolling the school board in the knowledge that by claiming to be a member of the sacred caste, he is untouchable.

If this is true - and if it turns it was all a wind-up on his part - then those defending him and the school are going to look rather silly.
Posted by: sam
« on: September 20, 2022 »

Spotted in my hometown paper in the States:



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State ed board to consider anti-LGBTQ resolution

After that clickbait headline need we read the actual story?

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State education board members will consider a proposed resolution discriminating against LGBTQ+ students next week.

Let's be clear: this is about the T, as usual.

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Cleveland.com reported that Brendan Shea, a conservative board member from Madison County near Columbus, will introduce Tuesday the "Resolution to Support Parents, Schools and Districts in Rejecting Harmful, Coercive and Burdensome Gender Identity Policies,"

A+ in resolution naming.

Cleveland.com's version of this story is far superior, btw.

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which reportedly claims that biological sex can't be changed and would deny them Title IX protections.

F for framing science as the bad guy.

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In June, for Title IX's 50th anniversary, the U.S. Department of Education proposed new protections for LGBTQ+ students from discrimination based on sexual orientation, gender identity and sex characteristics under the landmark federal law.

In June, for Title IX's 50th anniversary, the U.S. Department of Education proposed to gut the landmark federal law.

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If approved by state board members, the resolution would require schools to out LGBT+ children to their parents no matter the circumstances

Seeing as we're streamlining the process we might as well cut the parents out too, eh?

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and ban transgender youth from participating in sports or using facilities that align with their gender identity.

In other words, it would help ensure fairness and give students needed privacy based on their sex.

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It also advocates that state lawmakers use public resources to pay for penalties incurred by school districts for ignoring Title IX legal protections.

Interesting.

As long as we're talking about money, I guess they ran out of column inches to mention that "Schools that violate Title IX could face funding cuts for programs that support everything from classroom instruction to free and reduced-cost lunches for students."

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Honesty for Ohio Education executive director Cynthia Peeples opposes the resolution.

"The state board of education must stop this toxic resolution in its tracks," Peeple said. "It builds on a foundation of falsehoods and attacks that certain Ohio policymakers have copied from divisive, extremist national groups with no concern for the wellbeing of Ohio's young people.

"It goes against the state board's core mission to support public education for all Ohio students, and breeds a culture of lawlessness by directing local school leaders to break the law."

Gotta love that her group is called 'Honesty for Education'.

Toxic… falsehoods… attacks… divisive… extremist [i.e., fact-based], inclusive... I have seen the future and it is bite-sized.

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Two other state organizations – Ohio Federation of Teachers and Equality Ohio – stand in solidarity with Peeples….

Yada yada yada. Yes, this is the kind of insightful commentary you come here for.
Posted by: Samuel Johnson
« on: September 18, 2022 »


https://twitter.com/surma_jo/status/1571481978410799106
Quote from: Jo Surma
Side 1 = Smoke bombs, covered faces
Side 2 = Women having to wear body cameras in case they're attacked

What are the women doing to invite such a violent backlash?

Talking about women's rights. That's it. Our sex based, legal rights.

https://mobile.twitter.com/theFoxFisher/status/1571581733732257793
Quote from: Fox Fisher
Frustrated angry chants, the theatrics of coloured flares, the ninja style black uniform and the arresting of two trans rights supporters (with three police knocking one small framed person to the ground) is easy to twist in the media as something fearful

Quote from: The Argus
Two men were arrested at around 2.45pm this afternoon. One was arrested on suspicion of assault. The other person was arrested on suspicion of obstructing a police officer.

[Later a third was arrested, on suspicion of sexual assault.]

It is unclear what group they were supporting.

As someone said, it's a mystery for the ages, like the Bermuda triangle or what happened to Lord Lucan.





All that glitters is not comedy gold. These people are… something else.

Quote from: ArabellaScott
Oh my word, and one of them is a 'diversity advisor'?

Oh, the irony.

'Emily (she/her) is DCA’s media manager. She works as part of a team to amplify DCA’s leading and trusted voice in workplace diversity and inclusion.

Emily is also a campaigner, communicator and organiser with a background working in social justice, workers’ rights, and gender equality.

Recognised for her trailblazing use of social media as a campaigning and organising medium, and her consent-based collective story-telling models, Emily builds relationships to tell complex stories in accessible, impactful and effective ways.’

Helen Joyce's writeup is also worth a read.
Posted by: Elizabeth 1.0
« on: September 07, 2022 »

Auntie wants the audience to know this man was hounded out of a job:

Quote from: BBC News
Period dignity officer role scrapped after abuse over man's appointment
Jason Grant's hiring sparked a heated online debate, with critics saying the job should have gone to a woman.

The area's period dignity working group says the role will be discontinued following "threats and abuse" to those involved.

Martina Navratilova called the appointment "absurd", and Francis Barber was "fuming". No other examples were provided. Which was the threat and which the abuse?

Quote from: Victoria Smith
People like their fiction, but they do eventually tire of lies.

Truth has become a dog whistle.

Quote from: Frankie Mouche
12 Most Common Transphobic Dog Whistles
When engaging with people about trans issues, especially online, transphobic dog whistling is common place. Whether you are trans or nonbinary yourself or an ally, it is important to recognise these words and phrases.

Edumacate yourselves! This should flush the TERFs out:

Posted by: Dick York
« on: September 04, 2022 »

Quote from: Abhannmor
I've always cordially loathed him without quite knowing why.

From an interesting conversation about Stewart Lee at the coven. The witches have a way with words that keeps me coming back.

Quote from: PermanentTemporary
Comedians are in a business where you literally spend decades performing in a comedy persona while a) pretending it's you, b) performatively despising those who take the persona seriously and as if it's you and c) verbally abusing those who don't take the persona seriously and heckle them to come out of character.

Actually I don't mind any of that, it's a direct descent from the role of the licensed Fool etc (thoroughly recommend the Rest is History episode where Al Murray digs into comedy in history - v interesting). But it is a fact that they understand the vulnerability of mixing reality and performance in daily life, and how it 'working' depends on other people buying into it.

It's why it's predictable that Alastair Campbell would be publicly TWAW - whether or not he really believes it, his daughter is trying to make it as a comedian and she would be very brutally required to denounce him if he strayed, or suffer professional consequences. He loves his daughter.

I enjoy Stewart's comedy.


Quote from: lapasion
...in the past, everyone was safe in the knowledge that all comedians were very left wing and had the correct opinions. So when they dropped a slur or made nasty comments about women it was fine, because they are being ironic, you just don’t have a sense of humour.

But now there are comedians who dare to disagree with Lee and his mates on a certain topic. Which means we can’t joke about anything in case we’re actually right wing and not just, you know, making a joke. So all comedy must become a boring, po-faced lecture without any actual jokes, and clapping replaces laughter.


(Factchecking that "1000 families")

Progressive Mother Tells Daughter That She's Beautiful Just The Way She Is, Unless She's Trans In Which Case She'll Need Extensive Plastic Surgery
"Don't worry Bella," said White. "God made you perfect! You are unique and beautiful and you shouldn't change anything about yourself! Unless, of course, you're trans. If you're trans, you're a total disaster and cannot be happy unless doctors disassemble your body and make it into something else. Are you trans, honey?"

The young girl shrugged and pulled her hoodie up over her head.

Taking that as a "yes," Mrs. White has scheduled counseling and transition treatment for her new transgender son.
Posted by: sam/I/am
« on: September 03, 2022 »





Quote from: Eliza Mondegreen
Phobia indoctrination
A healthy, open, supportive trans community would not look or sound like the trans community we've got. It would be honest about the risks trans people face, rather than wildly inflating those risks to instill fear.