Author Topic: Triggering

Triggering
« Reply #70 on: October 06, 2022 »
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Curtain call for sexy bapu:



Twitter under Musk….
Quote from: F..F…..
Looks like he's finally splashing the cash and paying over the odds for Twitter. Can't help thinking this isn't going to go well….

It's been going so well so far.

Does this mean I can post this again?


A Sad Reflection On Society
I don't have a problem with links to the Daily Mail,


(sorry, nothing more recent in the morgue)



but it is curious why spen666 went with tinyURL. Perhaps it's as simple as disliking long URLs.

http://theguardian-has-too-much-virtue-signalling-bollocks-in-it-and-employs-the-execrable-Owen-Jones-so-I-mostly-give-them-a-miss-does-that-make-me-a-deplorable?

Bite me
« Reply #71 on: October 15, 2022 »
Reading from the beginning of GBeebies – do you have to ask if it started with a Guardian link? – I was freshly struck how the other Pale Rider's absence is a loss to the forum. I wasn't particularly fond of him, but that's neither here nor there. Come back Paley! From the grave, if necessary. I'd really like your opinion if the previous sentence was in poor taste.

Post Of The Day:
Quote from: Craig the cyclist
Morons
I'll just plough on through the personal abuse and try to get somewhere.

So how far do you think that the coalition of Stop Oil should be allowed to go in their protest? Because like I said, you are generally pretty supportive of the right to protest by all sorts of groups, obviously right up until they do something you personally don't agree with, at which point they become morons.

Now for some people that 'moron' line is closer, for others further away. You have found your line (although it may have been closer if you read the Guardian more closely). How does it feel to have reached the point of becoming a right-wing fascist control freak trying to stop legal peaceful protest?

There would be readers who baulk at this honour bestowed upon Craig the cyclist if I hadn't already weeded them out a few posts ago when I gave it to jowwy the hut.


A POTD to Craig on a thread called 'Morons' is peak NACF, which is to say, I've never been afraid to go there. "Go where?" ask morons if I was plebeian enough to call people morons. Though I do have a list.

I've never been a huge fan of Van Gogh's sunflowers.



Doctor Who doesn't do much for me either.


You know who really gets my goght? [That's how I grew up pronouncing it.] People who waste tomato products.


I don't mind them gluing themselves to things, all part of the rich tapestry of life. Glue away, preferably out of harm's way: a museum seems the perfect venue.

Ah, museums.



I miss them so. Even the ones that wind me up.



I belong in a museum. Wait a minute – I'm in one. It looks a lot like home.


People shuffle through, gawk at the exhibits, sometimes get caught in a loop, shuffle back out again.

Look, here's an exhibit in the process of construction:



Quote from: matticus
It will never end!

Matticus may be right. I had a few ideas


EVEN ASSHATS* CAN CHOOSE INTERESTING AVATARS
*a term of art

but seem to have lost, as George Bush v.1 memorably put it unfortunately not in this video as advertised, the big mo.


Perhaps I'll return to it in the fullness of time. Like I hope to return to London some day.



Let's head back to the beginning of this post.
Quote from: winjim
There's a fun clip of Graham Norton taking the piss out of Cleese but then making the point that we shouldn't really care what Norton has to say either which means that by watching and promoting the clip we end up in a weird destruction of the fabric of logic.

Here's the tweet, with some good replies. Here's the clip in a format I can actually embed:


Graham Norton is cowardly. AuroraSaab concurs. (We agree on more than we disagree. Alas the woman is deadly dull. I base this solely on her lack of curiosity about NACF, which is another list. It's not in indelible ink!)

Quote from: qigong chimp
Quote from: Badger_Boom
I thought Campbell's was the artists' choice when it came to soup?

You're right, and note how this act of transgressive creativity is already feeding what George Steiner would call a 'visioning' of the established narrative, itself a creative response rather than parasitic commentary.

Keep up, we're on Morons again.

Quote from: qigong chimp
Quote from: Bromptonaut
What happens @Craig the cyclist is that people post something. You then apply your own thought process so as to take portray them as having said something different accuse the poster of hypocrisy.

You did exactly the same thing to me. I questioned facts around people too long in hospital and you made a completely false parallel about people losing their homes.

To do it once might be a mistake, to do it twice and more looks deliberate.

Whether it's trolling or not it does not advance debate. [I don't rate Bromptonaut enough to bump up the point size in this nested quote. He can come back from this, but it will take work.]

There can't be people still unclear about Craig's bad-faith MO, surely?

https://naca.cyclechat.net/threads/who-cares.35/post-1962

Excellent link, thank you kindly.


Did Craig deserve that POTD? Probably not; there are far better candidates. Life can be unfair.



How else are you going to learn?

Quote from: Unkraut
Quote from: shep
People on here aren't looking for debate they just want to be agreed with.

No they don't ...

Better out than in.


you ain't seen me, right?


It's an art. You're welcome.


Triggering
« Reply #72 on: November 01, 2022 »
The push for a Natzional Trust….
Quote from: F.. F…..
The hard right are rising-up to take over the National Trust. I struggle to understand what makes the likes of 'Restore Trust' so angy and backward looking?

How clever to add a 'z'. Because Nazi has a 'z'. Shame, we could've had a putsch.

National Trust AGM set for fresh battle over culture wars
Insurgents to bring war on ‘wokeness’ to National Trust AGM

Looks like someone took the ball the headline writers gave him and ran with it.

Quote from: AuroraSaab
I keep forgetting that a prerequisite of NACA is to concede that almost everybody is a member of the Nazi far Right.


I don't know about you, but I'm getting there. [Colin Wright]

Quote from: AuroraSaab
Quote from: F.. F.....
Yes, you're right, it's a storm in a tea-cake, or maybe it's the thin edge of an unpleasant Victoria Sponge slice...

Is there anything that isn't the thin edge of the wedge? When it's something that's important to others but not to you it seems to be dismissed as a culture war/pearl clutching non event. When it's an interested party trying to have a say in the direction of a charity it's the equivalent of Kristallknacht.

But Nazis.

Quote from: matticus
Life is a lot easier if you sort everyone into Gammons or Woke-rati Tree-huggers; it's much harder to be sarcastic about the middle ground, for one thing

We've already covered the middle ground.

Quote from: shep
Wightwick Manor is 100yds from my house.

Is this shep's way of telling us he's in service?

Quote from: mudsticks
There's definitely a 'comprehension gap' going on here.


Quote from: shep
Quote from: mudsticks
nOpE.

c'MoN bE hOnEsT now bEeBs .

iTs eXaCkeRtLy THE SaMe THING.!!!

And yOu nOeS iT !!!!!

You had a stroke?

LOL. Yes, I hate myself a little for having LOL'd (or L'd OL, for any grammar Nazis reading this).

Quote from: shep
What is it that the National Trust needs to do to move with the times and how are they not 'inclusive'?



Triggering
« Reply #73 on: November 07, 2022 »
Private Eye, The Guardian & Issues of the Day
Quote from: winjim
I remember when Hadley Freeman used to be quite fun.

Seriously?


Triggering
« Reply #74 on: November 11, 2022 »

USA Midterms…
Quote from: F.. F…..
Surprised this has not been a topic.

Surprise me with something interesting to say about US politics.

Quote from: stowie
I saw the bit of his speech where [DeSantis] was going about "woke" and being "anti-woke". I find this woke narrative very useful. It easily identifies people who are total daffodils in a very time efficient manner.


Note to self: keep up

Quote from: F.. F.....
Their freedom means the ability to lynch black people

The last lynching in the US was about 40 years ago, but I suppose it depends how you define the word; clearly my mother country continues to have a race problem. However, to suggest that the "Republican powerbase of scared backward looking white people" all have a length of rope with a hangman's knot at the ready is ridiculous even for hyperbole. This is the politics of fear.

Bye Bye Democracy
Quote from: Rusty Nails
Fascism and The Holocaust in one thread.

Well, there's already been a visit from a grammar Nazi. (Deserve's got nothing to do with it.™)

Quote from: Unkraut
Quote from: AuroraSaasb
It's really not appropriate to compare everything to the Holocaust.

Especially on 9th November.


You should be ashamed of yourself Nick.

Quote from: newfhouse
Yes, the country is definitely moving in that direction. I’m against it.

Highlights the importance of being earnest with a straight face.

Quote from: newfhouse
Quote from: PK99
Roll-on ID cards for everyone!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/08/labour-revives-id-cards-idea-reduce-irregular-immigration-stephen-kinnock

Tory scum.

That's more like it.

Quote from: winjim
Quote from: Rusty Nails
This is an important issue that needs to be resolved, affecting anything between 2% and 6% of the electorate, but nowhere near the end of democracy. It would be wrong to introduce the policy before the issue is resolved and it does need to be publicised.

But please don’t trot out the old “first they came for....”.

They can't come for me if they don't know who I am.

We'll come back to that.

I'm finding it difficult to see why it's so outrageous to confirm who is actually voting,

- House of Commons research briefing
- Policy paper

but am willing to be re-educated. Not sure Byline Times, despite its admirable stand on tracking and cookies, is my best hope here – and I ❤ me some alternative media.

Quote from: Byline Times
LGBT+ groups have also expressed anger over the voter ID provisions because of the potential for trans people to be turned away if their ID does not match their current appearance.

On the bright side, it will burnish their ★ MOST OPPRESSED EVER ★ credentials.

Quote from: Hitchington
A simple risk/benefit exercise (based on evidence and projections) shows that an exponentially greater number of people will be disenfranchised by a voter ID law than people having their identity stolen at the ballot box. This law overwhelmingly suits the Tories more than it benefits democracy.

POTD goes to the Wokey Dick,* though the fact that the Tories currently benefit doesn't ipso facto [Latin for "Latin makes you look smarter"] make it bad law.

* as currently self-styled. Something else for me to keep track of if it changes so I may issue a correction and a humble apology for what would otherwise appear to be a slur.

Joint POTD:
Quote from: winjim
The issue is that any restriction on freedom needs to be justified, proportionate, necessary and democratic. We need to balance the right to anonymity and privacy with the right to access services etc.

So what problems does it solve, what improvements does it facilitate and what safeguards does it provide against abuse and misuse?

Next time I feel moved to throw my vote away, I'll come prepared:





Needs updating:
• There's a lot more gray.
• I no longer vote Green.
• They decided to stick with Charles after all.
• The tide of Jamie Oliver has since receded.
• What's 'VCR'?
• As it happens I do have a nut allergy, recently diagnosed, thus proving we're all capable of change.
• The tattoo of David Blunkett has been painfully removed and replaced with one of Suella Braverman. It's nothing personal, it's a Home Secretary thing.

Quote from: winjim
They can't come for me if they don't know who I am.

Told you we'd come back to that. Bye bye Hilda, hello Bluey. (I guess that's actually Bandit. They all look the same to me.) (Oh dear.)



The danger of doing background checks on cartoon characters:

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/04/15/bluey-cartoon-diverse-characters-disabled-queer-gender-diverse-dogs/

https://poptopic.com.au/entertainment/shows/bluey-popular-australian-preschool-show-under-fire-for-lack-of-diversity/

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4221522-not-enough-gender-stereotypes-in-bluey

https://www.reddit.com/r/bluey/comments/mqjxg7/bluey_and_diversity/


https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/1530601954866565120
https://twitter.com/search?q=url%3A1530601954866565120&src=typed_query - retweets with comments, which Twitter sometimes likes to hide
https://twitter.com/PomeranianGod/status/1590645118327218176

Pardon me for the avalanche of naked URLs.



Help, I can't stop posting Randy Newman songs. Beats Billy Bragg.


Let's wrap this up with my favourite.


Triggering
« Reply #75 on: November 13, 2022 »
USA Midterms, cont'd
Quote from: All uphill
Quote from: Rusty Nails
I don't get this UK horror over whichever Republican politician will stand for the presidency. Republicans have always been the same, with a very occasional move to being very slightly less right wing, and the US keeps voting them in. Whichever one gets the nod will be much more right wing than we are used to in this country. Just live with it, we always have, and have no influence on it at all.

You OK @Rusty Nails? Sounding a wee bit like @shep there for a moment

That's right, stay in your box.


Republicans haven't "always been the same", but we'll let that slide.


At the risk of attracting the ire of mudsticks, winjim and Rusty, as if I was on their radar, herewith a submission for The Good News Only thread:

Federal Judge Strikes Down A Key Part Of President Biden’s Transgender Agenda
Quote
A federal judge has reversed a Biden Administration rule that directed the Department of Health and Human Services to increase access to sex change surgeries and hormone therapies, including to children, in a Friday ruling.

Biden’s HHS said in May 2021 that it would interpret a section of the Affordable Care Act, which bars doctors from discriminating on the basis of sex, as covering sexual orientation and gender identity. Two doctors represented by the America First Legal Foundation brought a class action lawsuit against the Biden administration after the HHS took the action, arguing that the rule would interfere with their ability to properly practice medicine.

The judge argued that the Biden administration’s interpretation of Title IX to include “gender identity,” was faulty and could not be changed until Congress passed a law to that effect, or the Supreme Court ruled otherwise.

“As noted above, the ordinary public meaning of ‘sex’ turned on reproductive function when Congress enacted Title IX,” Judge Kacsmaryk, a Trump appointee, wrote. “For an action to occur ‘on the basis of sex,’ biological sex must be the motivating factor.”

The judge also added that by extending sex protections to individuals who identified with a sex other than their biological sex, the purpose of Title IX was compromised.

“Defendants’ reinterpretation of Title IX through the Notification imperils the very opportunities for women Title IX was designed to promote and protect — categorically forcing biological women to compete against biological men.”

It's tainted by the source, natch; I wonder if The Guardian will report it (if they cover it at all) quite this way, i.e., just the facts, ma'am.

There's a discussion about it here.

Quote from: Clever Clogs
Quote from: moi
stay in your box

Irony alert?


Not so much.

Oh and Rusty, whom I normally agree with, this one's for you.

Triggering
« Reply #76 on: November 15, 2022 »
Coherent ideology
Quote from: Ian H
Quote from: theclaud
Don't people ever check upthread before posting the bleedin' obvious gag that it's a dead cert someone has already posted?

From each according to their abilities.

[Searching the database for something gnomic. I may be some time.]



[˙ǝɯᴉʇ ǝɯos ǝq ʎɐɯ I ˙ɔᴉɯouƃ ƃuᴉɥʇǝɯos ɹoɟ ǝsɐqɐʇɐp ǝɥʇ ƃuᴉɥɔɹɐǝS]

Spoiler
That’s the closest I can get to a mirror effect without spending a stupid amount of time on this. Yes, I know the upside down text isn’t right.
[close]


Triggering
« Reply #77 on: November 27, 2022 »
Nationalise, regulate or laissez-faire?
Quote from: qigong chimp
Quote from: newfhouse
...our rivers will remain polluted for too long but the Tories think forty years of shite and worse is acceptable. That’s some legacy, you filthy scum.

While Gelt, the cronies' river runs
Through loopholes measureless to man at HMRC
Down to non-dom offshore trusts in the pristine Carib Sea.

Silk purse from a sow’s ear award.

Triggering
« Reply #78 on: November 28, 2022 »
Hark:
Quote from: Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
We now live in broad settled ideological tribes. We no longer need to have real discussions because our positions are already assumed, based on our tribal affiliation.

Forsooth
« Reply #79 on: December 04, 2022 »
I'm glad mudsticks came back from the mountain. Yea, though I find her unconvincing (except in her righteousness) on subjects of import previously catalogued, she is capable of making me smile, which is of course a NACAn's highest calling.

Quote from: mudsticks
Quote from: qigong chimp
You know what you must do.

Yea, and verily forsooth, indeed.

I have been in possession of said kindling machine for many a merry measure of year.

In bygones past I've evaded the 'not giving any money to the evil barstewards' conundrum, by only ever availing myself of the vintage, and indeed priceless tomes to be found thereupon.

It might divert one's literary perusal more toward the annals of yesteryear, but personally, one sees little intellectual damage arising from such antiquarian consumption.