Triggering

[Pale Rider]

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It would certainly appear that modern attempts to obliterate all distinctions aren't having much of an effect, at least yet. Such attempts won't survive first year medical school!

Do keep up. (The 'Common Sense' tagline is bonus catnip.)


Where does it hurt?

This fascinating take on Remembrance Sunday from the Papau New Guinea Daily Courier just landed on my desk.

Is that from a @fozy tornip Greatest Hits collection?

My first thought too.

Wear a poppy, or don't.

Go to a memorial, or don't.

Like so much in life, let others crack on with whatever they're into, as long as it's not hurting anyone else.

FWIW: I don't; didn't; and I think the near fetishisation of poppy wearing is pretty pathetic.

Says the man/woman... Which one were you today?

Thank god that people like you are in the minority.

#clownworld

What does your Daughter think of Daddy dressing like Momma on your 'feminine ' days?

Fab de-rail by the way folks.

Best. Tangent. Ever.

Wear your poppy with Pride.

winjim wins the thread, obvs.

Although AndyRM wasn't technically dissing the poppied, it's not hard to see how offence can lurk in the particular F word he used.* Lilliburlero, who never met a post he couldn't , saw red (possibly the breezy 'anything goes' attitude was also triggering), and Shep took a shine to his non sequitur.

*

Hah! I can't prove it, but I wrote that before Lilliburlero came back and posted this:

I just take exception to someone who doesn't know what gender they are going to feel like being on any given day calling poppy wearing "a fetish".

[close]

The consensus condemnation was never in question. Andy deserves a pat on the back for his conflict resolution here. Still, he doesn't strike me as a pacifist.

Love it! (I think we're ALL glad you read the Mirror, Jim)

Probably useful to include the context, makes an even better story IMO:
"World War 2 soldiers manned anti-aircraft guns in full DRAG after they were scrambled during panto photo shoot"

Is it not more fun to think they were mincing around in drag all the time just for the hell of it?

Yes it is. As an aside, despite the 'jim' I had winjim pegged a she. Can't remember why. This still doesn't make me keen for pronoun badges.

World's lamest confession

And what a poor World it's becoming then, I just hope future generations will be grateful when they're* scared to have a laugh at work, well done.

* correction of original 'their' due to tic in eye

One of these days I'm going to have to plot everyone, including myself, on a graph, and figure out who needs to be shot in what order come the revolution.

Everyday sexism is a good topic though.

theclaud: I'm worried. I think Shep is stuck in a site office with Mick Hucknall and this is a coded cry for help.

newfhouse: TC wins the internet today
[I can go as far as POTD]

Pale Rider: I think you are stuck in the 80s. Get with the programme, it should be Ed Sheeran.

newfhouse: Whoosh…

Maybe he saw it, or maybe he was just seeing ginger. Who can say.

I believe CC's Pale Rider voted Brexit, unlike Ed but like me. Is there anything else we have in common?

it's always been grimly amusing to watch

Now here's a whoosh, unless their a double act.

Speaking of good topics: The true cost of second homes, and air BnB

Filthy capitalist that I am, my retirement plan is to sell our home in London and buy somewhere smaller in a cheaper part of the country

[significant relocation of newfhouse on the graph]

[Humbug]

I rate CC as 9/10 on the shamelessly-middle-class spectrum.

Av yer got any scuzzbag cyclering forums on yer radar, or is this an utopean dream?

[Thorstein Veblen]

Being an American discouraged from ruminating about class, I don't have a good grasp on the subject. Any chance of a Humbug tutorial on the British class system?

Meanwhile I have spotted a thread with a spectrum of twats.

[Humbug]

That will not be necessary Thorstein, becos economy is the sole ov social diffrence innit.
Ere's one the P.A. prepared earlier.

231

Bless the middle classes
with fair trade coffee mortgages
and gay marriage soft options

Curse the working classes
with Maccy D mortgages
and common laws

Bugger the rich
with organic Duchy mortgages
and pointed sticks

[Pale Rider]

I've just got a 2 month ban

Amateur

[Pale Rider]

Even the dumbest mod ought to be able to decide what is NACA and what isn't.

If they can't, they really shouldn't be doing the 'job', although as with all volunteer positions imposing performance standards is difficult.

Given the apparently vast amount of work they've been seen saved by not having to moderate this place, keeping an eye out for and closing news threads over there cannot be at all onerous.

more members and especially different posters would be welcome.

It all gets a bit tedious after a while.

[Pale Rider]

Just as I was edging out the door again...

They voted to take away rights, opportunities settlement and travel away from their children and grandchildren. They voted to take away the cheap financial security they benefitted from away from their families. They voted to take away workers and environmental protections from their families. They voted to make food and goods more expensive and to make our domestic products less competitive.
And the the reason they voted to put barriers to trade and creative tariffs was because they are thick or just plain racists.
No other reason. Unfortunately they won’t have as long to suffer the consequences as the rest of us let alone their grandchildren.

Well as this seems to be a thread for diverse opinion I'd better weigh in here.

If the EU ever was an opportunity for social democratic betterment it went beyond that remit. The balance of power and influence between France (broadly socialist in effect) and Germany (broadly corporate capitalist) changed radically in this century. Germany is now gruner and France doigtier, a number of new member states (Hungary, Bulgaria, Poland) are distinctly right wing repressive, and the focus has changed to playing the superpower economic block game, I reckon.

Whatever 'cheap financial security' may be I have little direct experience of it. I suspect it is a middle class perk. I am not a big fan of benefits from an essentially corporate culture that buys off real dissent while promoting consumerism. I've met people who have come here from Romania to pick tulips for crap pay living in a tent in February in Scotland. Give me a caravan and the minimum wage and I will do this, though I'd prefer onions in September. The car industry has suffered from more and complex tariffs - let it! What an island needs as a bottom line is to grow enough food to feed itself. This was unlikely within EU agricultural norms. Using cheap EU labour for farming was downright exploitation. Food should be more expensive because it should be be grown and harvested sustainably by people with decent living conditions.

The only way to get this is for workers to fight for it. The key to environmental change is for people and communities to value this so much that we will go without cheap energy and build green alternatives. Legislation is the icing on the cake. We have to start local.

Is the EU funding climate change mitigation in frontline developing world communities? This would be my next priority.

Based on this I think we probably agree on more than we disagree. But...

Is it more or less likely that we will see the progress we wish for now that we have reduced our ability to influence trade and agriculture policy?

Trying to exert that influence in the milieu of corporate lobbying is getting dragged into a realpolitik that is the real problem, is my take on it.

Suddenly there was something different about the Brexit thread. It was readable.

I read it as an encouraging marker of the socially mobile, meritocratic land of opportunity we've become that quite literally anybody who went to Eton can become Prime Minister.

Tory bashing threads are tedious in their own way, but there are still pleasures to be had.

[Pale Rider]

What Do We Think So Far?

This is a good NACA exemplar post. If you're new here, this is the sort of thing to crib your posts from.

Start with a flippant remark that COULD indicate a lack of passion, spunk, or readiness for the fight:

I can, at least, take a little solace from the fact I'm only here for the lols.

BUT NO! The flippancy is overcome by some good stuff:

So far those of a right-leaning perspective seem completely happy to offer absolutely no positives, no justifications, no benefits, and no attempt to suggest any long-term beneficial outcomes to the policies and actions of the UK government they blindly support - just a constant stream of carping, abuse and pearl-clutching in any topic that dares to question their exalted lords and masters. Plus a metric f*ckton of smug sneering, putdowns and vitriol directed at anyone who dares point out the numerous actual and verifiable negative consequences of the actions and 'policies' of the owners of the boots they lick.

THAT's more like it - get stuck in!

There's stuck in and there's just stuck, an addiction to the roar of the crowd with each punch.

Henceforth anyone trying to post a funny thing must run their effort past me for approval prior to letting it into the world. It's for your own protection.

As self appointed arbiter of all things I think you'll find the position already filled.

if not oversubscribed....

It suits my purposes that you should think this.

[Pale Rider]

shep: If I wanted to go on Twitter I would open an account, have you nothing to say for yourselves? Why the constant links?

LCpl Boiled Egg: Let me guess. No-one you know is on Twitter and anyway, you don't give a shoot?

shep: Dunno, they might be but I'm not, so not interested in some other person's opinion on things.

newfhouse: Who knew?

Shep has brought this up before. Good for him. His point is lost on some.

Tweets, links, memes etc. are inexhaustible ammunition.

Me: The internet is there so you might as well use it.

Me: Why not aspire to being more than a conduit for other people's opinions you happen to share?

Me: That takes time! Time that could be spent racing along to the next thing I have to react to!

Don't look at me that way, it's called empathy. Ideally I like a mix, heavier on the words (with credit for DIY illustrations of course), but often fall short because reasons.

#ToHellWithTwitter!

Adam4868: Are you in anyway suprised that they're taking the piss out of you ?

shep: Me? What makes you think for one minute I take anything that the Government does personally?

qigong chimp: Because you’re a person?

shep: Perhaps you've a higher opinion of yourself than I do.

I'm so used to insult ping-pong that I'm having difficulty processing this. Never mind. Often enough I find myself agreeing with

[link to Tory pledges, whatever]

Now whether these things ever happen is another matter but they sounded good to me.

someone with whom I doubt I have much in common. At the risk of coming across as, well, earnest,

It's important to be earnest

they're passing up a great opportunity to learn from each other. Something other than ping-pong, that is.

[Pale Rider]

Spotted on the Political Jokes thread:



In my dreams am I that good at photoshopping.